Question:
Evolution doesn't make sense?
anonymous
2008-07-24 18:24:26 UTC
If humans were made from other animals, then why aren't animals now turning into humans?

And also the Big Bang, if this big bang happened shouldn't all galaxies be rotating in the same direction?
28 answers:
anonymous
2008-07-24 18:37:03 UTC
You're are clearly ignorant. Please tell me how you can conclude that evolution and the Big Bang don't make sense when you obviously know nothing about them. I suppose the award winning Physicists and Biologists who've spent their lives studying the evidence and facts must have missed that key piece of important information that you have just raised.

I can picture Richard Dawkins right now going: "Oh my! She's right! If evolution was real animals would still be turning into humans! How could I let all that evidence and facts I've studied for decades fool me!?" Read a book and educate yourself.
r.pentomino
2008-07-25 02:14:04 UTC
Evolution is a theory based on the scientifically observed mechanism, natural selection. In natural selection, specific traits become dominant in a species over time, as that trait improves survivability, such as in the example linked below, of a butterfly developing a genetic resistance to a bacteria which was threatening the species with extinction. There was also a case documented where a specific species of moth changed color (second link below).



Evolution theorizes that over a period of millions of years, this mechanism could extend to more significant mutations, such as fish developing legs, becoming amphibious, then land based...



It really can't be proven scientifically however (at least not yet), due to the amount of time required - making it unobservable in any practical sense. Also, there is a lack of fossil evidence to demonstrate transistion or splitting of species (ie it is fairly trivial to identify the links between, say a collie and a wolf, but there are no fossils of "cogs", to show the link between cats and dogs).



As far as the big bang... again, a theory, based on observation of the motion of objects in space. A big 'explosin certainly could account for things spinning in different directions (that is just a lot of force, mass and momentum going on. For a very simplistic demonstration, put 2 pencils in front of you on a desk, parallel to each other, and about an inch apart. Then use your hands to flick the eraser ends of the pencils away from each other. One will spin away counterclockwise, while the other will spin away clockwise.



Again, the problem with saying this is more than just a theory is that we don't know enough about how the universe works yet. There are still many questions and ideas regarding dark matter, dark energy, ether... and their behavior, all of which could support, or invalidate big bang theory (see links 3 & 4).



All pretty fascinating stuff, which should be viewed with interest, and also a touch of skepticism. It will be exciting to watch as new discoveries are made in the next several years, and hopefully we will all keep an open mind.
suitti
2008-07-25 01:37:39 UTC
Perhaps other animals are turning into humans. There are lots of pretty smart animals. Evolution is a pretty slow process. You're unlikely to notice it, except for bacteria - where it is well established. And yet, we have seen animals split into two species over recorded history.



Evolution does not have a goal. Animals (and plants, etc.) don't evolve to become "better". They evolve to become better adapted to survive their ecological niche. Humans are not "better" than other animals.



The Big Bang does not predict that galaxies rotate in the same direction. Physics says that angular momentum must be conserved. That suggests that galaxy rotation should be, overall, random. Locally, galaxy rotation isn't quite random. In the local group, galaxies seem to have a preferred alignment, though not all are identical by any means.
Larry454
2008-07-25 04:16:29 UTC
Hello Tori -



You really should try to understand science before you reject it. The science that you are taking issue with is over 200 years old - what you are doing is nearly identical to the Church's original position on Galileo's observations that the Earth revolves around the Sun, i.e. they did not understand it and they did not believe it, so they condemned it. Wouldn't it be silly to say that the Sun revolves around the Earth? Well, that's what the Church said over 300 years ago. And they made sure that all their followers marched along in lock step, never reading the actual science and never considering the possibility that they could be mistaken. After all, the Bible says that the Earth is in the center, right? Well, not exactly, but that's what THEY said that IT said.



Eventually, the Church will recognize that evolution works (the evidence is all around you) and that the Big Bang does not violate Newton's Laws (you really should try to understand Newton's Laws). Once they do, they will suddenly adopt the position that it was their idea all along and that it is obviously true and nobody is allowed to ask any questions.



Time to open up your eyes and read. Time to understand what other books say. Time to think for yourself. Best of Luck.
Innocent Victim
2008-07-25 02:22:07 UTC
Evolution makes very good sense, BUT, you have to make some effort to actually understand it. You saying it doesn't make sense because animals should be turning into humans is like me saying it doesn't make sense that god created the universe by rubbing two sticks together. That's not how the story goes, so of course it makes no sense. It's what is called a strawman argument. The actual theory, what evolution actually says should happen in a given situation, is unassailable, immune to logical attack by those who don't accept it, so instead of attacking the actual theory, you built a strawman, labeled it evolution, and attacked that. It's a very intellectually lazy thing to do, ever so much easier than educating oneself. Same goes for the big bang theory. You obviously have made no effort to understand that, either, so you say, "Shouldn't everything be spinning the same way?", but no, there's nothing in big bang theory that says everything has to spin the same way, just as there's nothing in evolutionary theory that says all animals are evolving toward human. Try reading a book that doesn't have gold letters on the cover, and you might find that science makes a lot more sense than you ever thought.
anonymous
2008-07-25 05:16:30 UTC
You have grossly misinterpreted the theory of evolution. Evolution is by no means linear (i.e. humans are not an eventual or necessary stepping stone in evolution). All evolution is is the gradual (natural) selection of genes that help organisms survive; over a long period of time and many selections, one may arbitrarily decide when the species is "new". Let me say that this selection process is not a mystical one, it is necessary. Take a black moth and a white moth that live in a forest populated by dark trees; obviously the black moth has genes that make it black and the white moth has genes that make it white. Predators can see the white moth easier, therefore it does not have as much time to reproduce and pass on its gene. The black gene is naturally selected for, as the white one is not advantageous.



The galaxies need not all be rotating in the same direction. Besides the fact that they all formed in different ways, gravitational interactions and collisions alter rotation.
anonymous
2008-07-25 01:32:02 UTC
animals are evolving but we humans are effecting the natural evolution track evolution takes a very long time animals are involving in species to new species so it goes as so an frog cannot go back and become a human but it can advance into other species on far down the line in may become a human like species but it is highly unlikely



the big bang is like a sphere everything is traveling at a different direction
anonymous
2008-07-25 01:31:08 UTC
You don't make sense.



Evolution simply states that things change over time, adapting to the environment.



It's not a theory, it's fact. All you have to do is look around. People who are from hot countries or whose ancestors were needed more protection from the sun, so their skin is dark.



That's a fairly obvious example, don't you think?



Why would other animals have to turn into humans? What would be the point?



I don't know about the Big Bang. It's not really necessary to know. It doesn't change my life if I know about it or not.



Were you brought up by American fundamentalist Christian parents?



At least part of you is questioning things a little. It's a start.



I think one of the funniest observations is that people who don't believe in evolution actually see no evolution in themselves, so don't understand the concept.
vorenhutz
2008-07-25 01:49:00 UTC
"why aren't animals now turning into humans?"

"shouldn't all galaxies be rotating in the same direction?"



why do you think that they would?



did you ever consider that perhaps it's your understanding of what those theories predict that's wrong?



"I go to church, but I hate how schools aren't proving what they are teaching."



well that's some irony right there.
Raymond
2008-07-25 02:41:28 UTC
"I go to church, but I hate how schools aren't proving what they are teaching." Why does it work for one but not for the other?



Evolution was already accepted by the Church well before Darwin's theory. What Darwin did is explain how evolution worked. There were three problems (as far as the Church was concerned) with his theory:



1. It showed that evolution was passive. In the sense that the properties that a race would end up having resulted from the weaker specimens being culled by the environment before having offsprings, rather than by the individuals themselves evolving with the environment and THEN passing on the favorable property to their offspring.



For example: if the climate gets colder, specimen that are more adapted to the cold will survive better. They will have a higher probability of having offsprings who will carry whatever gene made their parents better adapted to the cold. Under the old understanding, it would be possible to endure oneself to the cold, then pass on this endurance to one's descendants.

(The Church would have preferred an active evolution, and one that could be more directly governed by God)



2. The theory showed that it was possible for humans to have evolved from some ancestor who was not quite human. This ancestor could have a common ancestor with other primates.

There were at least five species of hominids that descended from this common ancestor, of which two (at least) were "intelligent" (H. Sapiens Sapiens -- that's us -- and H. Sapiens Idaltu) It is unclear if H. Neanderthalensis was a member of the H. sapiens subspecie.

(The Church would have preferred that humans be directly created by God, instead of being part of the evolution process)



3. The evolution, following this theory, takes time. For example, we took 200,000 years to evolve from our hominid ancestor.



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Of course, the biggest problem comes with number 2, which means that we were not created directly by God and, therefore, it may become far more difficult to determine who (or what) has a soul and who does not.

For example, when Christian explorers arrived in North America, they deemed that the inhabitants did not have souls. It was therefore OK to kill them (it was not a sin).



Back to the theory.

Any attack on points 1 and 2 have failed on scientific grounds. All scientists agree that the DNA evidence does show that we share far more in common with some animals (because we share common ancestors) than with others. Our body also shows vestigial organs that are useless to us in our present environment, but would have been useful for an ancestor in a different environment. These ancestors were known to be quite remote from our present form.



This leaves point 3. If we could just show that the time is not available, then the theory would be rendered useless (it needs all three points -- and some others which I have not added here).



The major thrust was to resurrect the idea that the world is young. When the idea of a world that was created in 4004 BC was issued by Ussher, it was already dismissed by the Christian churches everywhere. No one knew the age of the world, but everyone already knew that it was much older than that.



In order to dismiss the idea that the world is very old (old enough for evolution to have had time to work the way it could have), even the Big Bang is being "tossed aside".



When it was first formulated, the Big Bang theory was ridiculed by scientists. Another theory was presented (to explain expansion, which could not be denied) called the Steady State theory. Its greatest promoter was Fred Hoyle, probably the greatest astrophysicist at the time.



Fred was an atheist and proud to be. His main attack of the Big Bang theory (he's the one who gave it this awful name) is that it allowed that the universe could have been created. The great advantage of the other theory, he said, is that an eternal universe does not need to be created, therefore it does not need a Creator.



The Big Bang theory, at first, was defended by a priest (Lemaitre) and a few of his friends. It was often touted as a weak attempt to bring God back into the picture. The only reason the theory survived is that it is the one that best explains what we see.



For example, at the beginning, the universe was homogeneous and isotropic (this is a requirement -- it means that the universe was everywhere the same, and it looked the same in any direction from any position).



Therefore, once matter was created and (much later) allowed to assemble into galaxies, the spin axes of galaxies had to be randomly distributed.



If all the galaxies were spinning in the same direction, then that would show that the Big Bang theory ain't working.



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Evolution takes time and is the result of pressures from the environment. Various animals have evolved from common ancestors. For example, lions, tigers and domestic cats have evolved from a common feline ancestor. As Earth is getting more and more covered with humans and their cities, the domestic cat is doing a lot better. Is the domestic cat better than the lion or tiger? No. Just better adapted, and a little bit intelligent.



However, the specie that evolved into hominids is no longer present. In order to have animals evolve into humans, they would first have to evolve into this common ancestor (for a long time, it was called "the missing link"). This ancestor, or at least a link in the missing chain, is Australopithecus afarensis.



Unless some other animals first evolve into A. afarensis once again, then we can't have new sub-species of H. sapiens.
anonymous
2008-07-25 01:30:29 UTC
Humans weren't made from other animals. Humans ARE animals. We evolved from other animals.



Why should other animals evolve into humans? That's almost impossible.



Our evolution was already very unlikely, why should it happen twice?



Big bang: when a car explodes, does this cause a typhoon? No. Everything goes in different directions inside the explosion.
quntmphys238
2008-07-26 08:39:25 UTC
Creationism doesn't make sense. Eve was a VERY busy woman if we're all her decendants. And, Adam was quite happy, but one would presume a bit tired. Well, okay, there's that whole flood thing. So, we're all decended from Noah's family. Strange how we don't all look like siblings and cousins. Oh yeah, it must those mutations that happen over immense spans of time which help propel evolution. That explains it, evolution.
anonymous
2008-07-25 01:48:00 UTC
1. no. evolution is not a linear process. for example, humans did not evolve from apes as most creationists would have you believe. humans and apes both evolved from a common ancestor. humans did not evolve from any current species, instead humans and other current species evolved from a common, extinct, ancestor.



2. at first glance, yes. but ive made videos of kent hovind using this argument, and then just tore it to shreds. for one, this argument assumes that the primeval atom was spinning, which it was not. ill use hovinds same example for the rest of this. imagine a grenade in the middle of a field. if it explodes, the pieces can only get further apart. if it were spinning that would still hold true, and the pieces would all spin the same direction. but hovind has 2 fatal flaws in his argument. ive already addressed one, the primeval atom did not spin. secondly, the parts of a grenade are not electromagnetically charged. particles in the early universe can repel and attract eachother. they can collide (well, sort of. its the same thing). hovind assumes that since things wouldnt collide (but they would) all galaxies would spin in the same direction. but apparently he doesnt realize that for galaxies to form there has to be collisions. collisions change the spin and direction of objects.



so in short, no your wrong.
that's what she said
2008-07-25 03:34:57 UTC
ANIMALS WENT THROUGH DIFFERENT BRANCHES OF EVOLUTION

YOU WILL NEVER SEE A FISH GROW LEGS

OUR DNA SHOWS UNDENABLE EVIDENCE THAT WE ARE RELATED TO APES

DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE ELEPHANTS WILL ONE DAY BECOME HUMANS?

APES ALREADY EVOLVED INTO HUMANS

AND SMALL BIRDS ALREADY EVOLVED INTO EAGLES



BIG BANG DID HAPPEN

WE CAN STILL FEEL IT EXPANDING

AND NO- GALAXIES TAKE BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF YEARS TO SPIRAL INTO A NON VIOLENT GALAXY LIKE OUR MILKY WAY



AND SCHOOLS AREN'T ALLOWED TO TEACH EVOLUTION BECAUSE IT WILL UPSET GOD LOVING PARENTS INTO PROTESTING AND MAKING A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT ALTHOUGH IT'S THE COLD HARD TRUTH WITH THOUSANDS OF RESEARCH TO BACK UP



ALL THAT "CREATION" HAS IS THE BIBLE

AND IT HAS ABOUT 2400 CONTRADICTIONS
Mr. Bodhisattva
2008-07-25 02:21:49 UTC
Give evolution as much thought as you have given the big bang and it will make sense.
Donut Tim
2008-07-25 01:47:00 UTC
Yes, I understand your problem.



Most sciences don't make much sense until you start looking more deeply into how the findings were produced.



Physics, chemistry, even the electronics in your computer can be a mystery. Nobody knows everything, so please don't take this as sarcasm.



I recommend that you take one question at a time and look into it carefully (your question about rotation was something that I was wondering also).
the weird girl
2008-07-25 01:31:36 UTC
well it took millions of years for anything to adapt and evolve and even now it is happening we find weird things animals do everyday and we cant explain it but think that they are adapting to the area they live



The big bang theory suggests that every galaxy had a seperate big bang for each galaxy so it didnt happen all at once as you might think
Laura
2008-07-25 01:31:34 UTC
well... its the same reason cats aren't evolving into birds.... humans are just a different species... as for the second one galaxies didn't just appear out of the blue... they took billions of years to form and they all formed differently hence why they all rotate differently and make different shapes based on the materials that started to form them and when they began to take shape
anonymous
2008-07-25 03:59:52 UTC
Your question reveals your gross ignorance. Before you try again, read a popular book on evolution so you will know what it's really about. Then try to ask an intelligent question.

For starters, try Richard Dawkins' "The Blind Watchmaker."
Dave87gn
2008-07-25 01:29:32 UTC
All creatures evolve differently.



and the big bang is an explosion in all directions and it is continuing to expand, however there are other explosions,of stars universes black holes and all kinds of other stuff going on within the expansion
Carly
2008-07-25 01:28:08 UTC
Evolution takes years.
anonymous
2008-07-25 02:29:55 UTC
evolution (which can be proved) doesn't make sense,



but a mystical being that created a whole universe for us, put us here, to test us to see if we go to heaven or hell, does?



can i have what you're smoking?
jackbondnj
2008-07-25 01:29:00 UTC
Well for the first question, they believe that the mutation happens extremely gradually over millions and billions of years. Not like an hour long transformation. Tons of generations supposedly pass by before the creature is noticeably different...



But the title explains it all. Evolution is clearly and undeniably wrong and none of it makes sense unless one is willing to deny the facts to have it fit his petty desires.
Heartattax
2008-07-25 01:28:37 UTC
its because evolution take place and millions of year to progress, and yes one day us humans may even evolve into something for intelligent and adapt to our ever changing enviorment
anonymous
2008-07-25 01:48:33 UTC
the Anunnaki made humans using primates ,mixed

with their own genetics.



http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/anunnaki/anu_6.htm

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/02/11/MN180850.DTL

http://www.google.com.mx/search?hl=en&q=genome+discovery&btnG=Google+Search&meta=lr%3Dlang_en

http://www.jupiterscientific.org/sciinfo/genome.html



read Enki`s book he talks about it

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/sitchinbooks_enki.htm



these texts are thousands of years older than the bible

and are traditionally banned in Christian countries.



from

http://byderule.multiply.com/links/item/26/STEP_INTO_THE_LIGHT



Darwin was wrong

and the Bible lied about a lot of it.



It is a good thing schools do not teach what churches are teaching

or all of you kids will remain ignorant and in the middle ages



the churches job is to keep people ignorant and easy to control as well as different from other people so that we can have wars.
anonymous
2008-07-25 01:28:00 UTC
you don't know what evolution is.. how can you say it makes no sense



and no, they shouldn't



so jackie.. your idea system professes ignorance? yeah.. THAT's the truth alright... >:|
anonymous
2008-07-25 01:30:15 UTC
ever seen the movie "alien"? that was great.
anonymous
2008-07-25 01:27:52 UTC
WOW, you are catching on. Now start going to church and you will learn the real truth. GOD Bless you.


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