Question:
Is there a debunk about this Article that proves that the moon landing is fake?
honey singh
2013-04-27 14:57:41 UTC
http://rense.com/general79/apol11.htm is there a debunk about this article about the moon landing is
fake. Because in my science project my class mates brought this article up and i told them give me a day and i will bring a debunk for this. My science project is about how come the moon lander deniers are wrong
(I will give credit to anyone who gives me a debunk for this)
Eight answers:
Peter T
2013-04-28 05:33:40 UTC
I'm not aware of a specific de-bunking of this particular argument (or set of arguments).

I find the article you link to be somewhat confusing.

The author seems to be making a lot of the fact that there are differing amounts of gold coloured foil on various parts of the Lunar Module. Given that different parts of the spacecraft (and even different spacecraft, he has photos of the Apollo 15 LM and the Apollo 11 LM) are being shown I don't see how differing coverage of foil says anything about faking of images.

The other main argument seems to focus on the apparent thickness of the ladder stringer in the video captured by the camera as Armstrong is descending the ladder versus other still images of the same ladder. It is quite hard to see clearly the various features in the video. If you look at this still image

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/AS11-40-5866HR.jpg

which shows Aldrin about to descend the ladder, you can see that the left hand stringer has a long 'I-beam' shaped part attached at the lower section (bottom 6 rungs). This is in fact the casing used to house the flag, as shown in this demonstration photo taken of a mock-up on Earth.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/mccraw.gif

So I think the author of the article is being mislead in part by the appearance of this feature in the video.

You can see scans of all the lunar surface Hasselblad images at the site linked below

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11.html

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/images11.html#Mag40



The movie shown here

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/ap11_goddard_HSK_1st_5_mins.mpg

demonstrates that the dark features beneath Armstrong are not some kind of stage but the shadows of the LM cast on the Lunar surface, as when he makes the jump down to the footpad he goes waist-deep into the "stage".
Scott Stevenson-Done with Y!A
2013-04-28 02:44:20 UTC
Charcinders (and others) are correct. dnl is not. He's had the whole "temperature" thing explained, but like a good conspiracy loon, he doesn't listen.



For anybody who thinks he's got a good point, there are some things he doesn't mention.



1) the landings happened in what was essentially "early moring" at the landing site. The low sun angle made the shadows longer, so it was easier to judge how rough the terrain was. A bonus effect of that is that the temperatures weren't 250 degrees. He's making the argument that if you would burn your bare feet on the sidewalk at noon when it's 104, you'll burn your feet at 6 AM when it's 72.



2) With no air, any surface heat isn't transferred by convection, and since they weren't setting the cameras on the ground, it was transferred by conduction. Any heat from the surface would only transfer to the camera by direct radiation--a much slower process. Plus, the camera body slowed it down even more.



The next time someone asks about photos taken on the moon, he will make the same argument. And he'll still be wrong.
Alpha Beta
2013-04-27 16:48:34 UTC
This is complete nonsense. We have actual pictures of the moon landing sites, taken just recently by orbiting spacecraft around the Moon showing all the hardware and rover tracks.



This is just one more person proclaiming faked moon landings without a shred of actual evidence.



There is a mountain of real evidence saying we did land on the Moon, including rock samples.



Why people find the Moon landings technically impossible is beyond me. Do these same people believe we don't have an International Space Station in orbit? The Moon is just a 3 day coast from Earth orbit. In 1969, we understood how to land on the Moon and had the technology to do so. It's just not that difficult. Dangerous yes, difficult no.
anonymous
2013-04-27 16:40:11 UTC
You are starting out by asking the people that are not nuts to prove to the people that are nuts that the are nuts.As so many people before me have indicated a conspiracy of that magnitude would destroy it self in a short time.Should you remember it was over 40 years ago when the first americans stepped on the moon.In all that time do you not think someone having conclusive information the moon landings where faked that he or she or it would not come out from the slime and spilled the beans for some sizable reward.This old horse has bin put down many many times,let it rest in peace.
?
2013-04-27 17:08:02 UTC
His main point is that the ladder shown in the first TV images of Armstrong on the Moon looks like it has a thicker stringer than the very thin one shown in other photos of the LEM. Here's your debunk: That is not the ladder stringer, it is a thick metal bar, function unknown, that appears to be attached to the left-hand side of the ladder. You can see it in this photo:



http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/5863.jpg



What always amazes me about Moon landing hoax believers is how stupid they think NASA were. We are asked to believe that NASA could pull off the most elaborate hoax in history, one that even fooled the Russians, but they used a totally different ladder for Armstrong to climb down?!



Edit:

I think that metal "bar" is the storage container for the flag. I have found some references to it being attached to the left hand side of the ladder.

Also, look at his fig. 5. Above Armstrong's left hand you can clearly see the thin stringer of the ladder.



Edit 2:

Scroll down to fig. 4.

http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/flag/flag.htm



This container was a somewhat improvised solution to the problem of where to keep the flag. It was used on Apollo 11 and 12, but on later missions they stored the flag internally. That's why you don't see it on other photos of the LEM or on technical drawings.
?
2013-04-27 15:02:40 UTC
The six Apollo Moon landings are among the best documented events in human history: thousands of pictures, hours of video, 382 kg. of Moon rocks, and millions of eye witnesses, including myself. There is not a single scientist in the world who doubts that they took place. To deny them is to discredit the magnificent achievement of the team which went to the Moon, and to reveal abysmal scientific ignorance.



The proofs of the Moon landings have been documented in detail on web sites like these:

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm

http://www.clavius.org/



If further proof is needed, NASA recently released images from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter showing 5 of the 6 Apollo landers, still on the surface of the Moon:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/01/images_from_the_lunar_reconnai.html
dnl
2013-04-27 19:13:16 UTC
"These images were supposedly taken with a high quality Hasselblad color film camera by the astronauts"



The temperature on the moon varies from -250 to +250 degree - this is a known fact even NASA agrees. I don't believe there is a camera/film that can withstand that kind of temperature even today.



You can call me a "Hoax Idiot", but please try to take a picture in a vacuum space with 250 degree temperature (and we have the technology to simulate this environment today). If you can take a picture then I will admit that I am an idiot. Don't forget that the Apollo lunar module was on the the moon for two days.
anonymous
2013-04-27 17:26:53 UTC
Its really easy to doctor photos with Photoshop, especially old images from film (they weren't digital back in 1969).

None of his "evidence" is proof, because there is no proof the images are not faked by him.



Do the research - this is one article of questionable provenance and dubious reliability.


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