Question:
Is the universe designed for life?
Smegma Stigma
2006-07-21 06:15:54 UTC
"The universe was not designed for life; in practically the entire universe conditions are extremely hostile to life. Saying that the universe is made just for us is like a frog looking at his pond and thinking that the whole world was made just for him."

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/WhyAtheism.htm
Twenty answers:
crazyotto65
2006-07-21 06:20:38 UTC
The universe was not designed.



The universe was formed naturally, adhering to the laws of physics.



You are correct though - the universe we know is totally, totally inhospitable to life, except for a very very small corner.. (the corner we happen to subsist in...)
anonymous
2006-07-21 07:21:12 UTC
No, well, that is so foolish to say!!

Because you have the problem that WE ARE here.

It absolutely is designed for life--but not us, not just us. It's designed for life because it managed to create it. I don't know if you can say there are any accidents-- How could it be so? If we were a big accident, then how did the universe create such an incredible accident?

Furthermore, I don't know your view-- but how could you say something so narrow minded that we the universe is too hostile to house other life, it's too hostile to house us too than! YOu sound like you are painting yourself into a corner, if it is too hostile to house other life and we are this unique creation, than WOW, we are the only ones? that WOULD make someone feel special!!

ARe you kidding me? From the beginning of the universe to the end, we have no clue how much life there really is out there. --We could have hundreds of other worlds with life right in our very own galaxy! never mind all the others!



Can you imagine if in every one of the millions, billions? of galaxies, there were at least hundreds if not thousands of other worlds which also house life? It is actually VERY probable because WE are here, so they must be too!!!
Crazy Eagle
2006-07-21 06:28:05 UTC
Many prominent scientists would disagree with that statement. There are many components of our universe that, if set even slightly different, would make life impossible: such as the fact that water expands when frozen (unlike every other known substance), the relative mass between protons and neutrons, the exactly equal electrical charge of protons and neutrons, and so on and so on. It really does seem that our universe was designed for life.



The only counter-argument to this is: 1) our universe is only one of an infinite number of universes, that have existed before ours (or exist in a different space/dimmension than ours). Given the infinite number, it was just a matter of time before the cosmic lottery hit the jackpot, and came up with a universe capable of sustaining life.



BUT, this is purely philisophic speculation. It may be that is the case, or maybe not - we currently have no way of knowing. However, we still cannot deny that the universe is finely tuned to create life, and if any one of those parameters were set even slightly different, we would not be here.
Ken C.
2006-07-21 06:17:37 UTC
The universe was designed, but not for life. Is that your proposal? By whom was it designed to be extremely hostile to life? Why Atheism?



Regardless, based on what is observable, it seems the universe was designed so almost all of it is so hostile to life that only on small rare parts is life possible and only in fragile conditions at that! Who are we to say that our buzzing little planet isn't just an overflowing ant hill in someone else's slow planet that takes years upon earth years to complete a single breath or blink of an eye. It would move so slow we would perceive it as not moving at all. Or maybe the existence of other life moves so fast we can't see it because it exists between the refresh rate of our eyes!



The fourth dimension of time allows for other life to be all around us and we can't observe it. Einstein only proved that human life can't travel at the speed of light.
QuizTheOneWithoutOne
2006-07-21 06:20:09 UTC
The chemistry that underlies life on Earth is abundant throughout the universe -- in comets, in the interstellar medium, in the atmospheres of planets, in the outer solar system bodies and in living organisms, an astrophysicist told United Press International.

"If these are made everywhere, perhaps life is everywhere," said Emma Bakes, a principal investigator with NASA's Ames Research Center in California and with the SETI Institute. SETI stands for the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence.



"You have the chemical foundation spread throughout the entire galaxy," she said. "We're not special. I would bet -- if I had a million dollars -- I would bet that life is widespread across the universe."
Doctor Hand
2006-07-21 06:21:49 UTC
That's absurd. Every part of the earth from the arctic wastes to the deepest hydrothermal vents has life. Does that sound like life has any trouble existing in the universe?



I think the problem is the people who try to divide the universe up into life and not-life. It's ALL life.



A tree is made out of air and dirt and sunshine and water. It's ALL life.
paladine9169
2006-07-21 06:18:05 UTC
I do not think the Universe was designed for life.. as of course it was not "designed" at all, but rather happened.. Much as life is just a freak occurance under the exact right conditions.
anonymous
2006-07-21 08:56:14 UTC
Hi,



I think that since the universe is just very young you cannot say exactly what it is there for.



Same way a small child does not know yet what he will do when he grows up.... a salesman, a scientist etc...



However I think it was created for life. Life can be created out of nothing. Gases create life! So there might be many places where life can form.



Karl

http://www.furl.net/furled.jsp?topic=ds
anonymous
2006-07-21 06:24:32 UTC
Yes, It is like the snow flake who notices the temperature is perfectly conducive to the formation of snow and concludes that reality was designed by snow pixies.



The reality is that Existence is far more vast and varied than people would like to admit. We find ourselves in that infintesimal region where we can survive because only in that region can we evolve.



Does the fact someone wins a lottery mean there was an invisible cheater who rigged the lottery or does it just mean an awful lot of lottery tickets were sold.
anonymous
2006-07-21 06:27:16 UTC
This guy just sounds like he's whining because for some reason or other, something bad happened and he can't handle it, so he's punishing God by proving he doesn't exist. We live in the universe right? So wouldn't that mean it is good to live in? Why can't some people just accept the fact that they don't know everything and that choosing to blame God for everything that goes wrong in their insignificant lives is wrong? For all the times a kid dies because of war or famine or gang violence, you name it, we blame God or a faulty government system or the environment etc. in stead of doing something about it! Why don't we focus on our own world before we worry about the fate of the universe?
Dr. L
2006-07-21 06:18:04 UTC
Since the universe was designed for us to live in I guess that qualifies for it being designed for life.
Balthor
2006-07-21 10:26:05 UTC
Did you ever see corn plants growing in the cracks of the concrete on the expressway in your city?Wherever life can grab a hold there will life be!There might be life on Mars that would be undetected by our electronic equipment---invisible frogs---.
phoephus
2006-07-21 07:04:38 UTC
Everything in the universe must obey the laws of physics. If everything is obeying laws then nothing is random. Everything that has happenned in the Universe was meant to happen, therefore we were meant to be.
anonymous
2006-07-21 06:20:54 UTC
No we're just aliens from another galaxy that came and made the conditions just right for us to live in.
anonymous
2006-07-21 06:17:50 UTC
I agree with that.

We live in a little bubble of life... an anomaly in a void of space and gas. I guess we got lucky.
emadorum
2006-07-21 06:17:46 UTC
then it's a miracle why we have a nice earth amidst the hostile universe.
tough as hell
2006-07-21 06:22:56 UTC
Here is how intelligent design theory works:

1. The ways that intelligent agents act can be observed in the natural world and described.



2. When intelligent agents act, they tend to produce high levels of "complex-specified information", and in our experience, complex- specified information is always the product of the action of intelligent design.



3. "Complex specified information" is basically a scenario, or circumstance which is unlikely to happen through natural processes (making it complex), and conforms to a specific pattern (making it specified). Both language and machines are good examples of things with high levels of complex-specified information.



4. When we look at biology, very complex machine-like entities exist, which must be exactly as they are, or they cease to function properly. They are specified, becaues they conform to a particular pattern of arrangment organization which is necessary for them to function, and complex because they have an unlikely arrangement of many interacting parts.



5. The high level of complex-specified information in these biological machines makes them "irreducibly complex"--they have many interacting parts (making them complex) which must be EXACTLY as they are in order for the machine to work properly (making them specified), and any change in the nature or arrangment of these parts would destroy their function and make the machine stop working, making them "irreducibly complex" (they could not be any less complex and still function).



6. These "irreducibly complex" structures cannot be built up through a Darwinian evolutionary process, because Darwinian evolution says that a biological structure must be functional along every small-step of its evolution, and "reverse engineering" of these structures shows that they cease to function if changed even slightly.



7. Because there is no known natural mechanism to explain the origin of these "irreducibly complex" biological structures, and because they exhibit complex-specified information, a quality known only to be produced by intelligent design, we conclude that these irreducibly complex structures are intelligently designed.

Thus, if we recognize the tell-tale positive predictions of intelligent design, e.g. specified complexity, then we are justified in inferring design. Where the designer came from or how the designer originated is not a component of the argument for design. An simple example might help explain.



Let's say you are walking in a field and you find a TV set. Now you don't necessarily know anything about who or what designed that TV set, but you can tell it is designed because, at some fundamental level, it exhibits specified complexity. You don't have to know where the designers came from--a) they could have evolved, b) they could have been designed, or c) they could have existed without a cause from eternity. It doesn't matter: you can justifiably infer intelligent design without having to explain or know how the designer arose.



The implication in this objection, however, is that somehow option (c) is not a viable option because many people cannot explain the origin of God, who many believe to be the Designer. This is a religous / theological objection to intelligent design because it deals with philosophical statements about the designer that have nothing to do with the emprical study of detecting design. This objection delves into philosophy and asks if an uncaused designer would be philosophically acceptable assertion. (note that intelligent design theory doesn't necessarily say anything about how the designer arose, but let's just say for the sake of responding to the question that philosophically, we are employing option (c) and that the designer did exist eternally in the past, and has no "origin.")



Since this is a theological question, we can give a theological answer (which has nothing to do with the scientific theory of intelligent design). Is it really true that, philosophically speaking, it isn't acceptable to invoke God as an explanation for the origin of the universe unless we can somehow account for the origin of God? For the Christian theist, there is no explanation for the origin of God, for God is by definition a Being existing outside of space and time eternally in the past, present, and future, from Whom all things which were created have come, who has no origin:

Psalm 93:2: "Your throne was established long ago; you are from all eternity."

Proverbs 8:23: "I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began."

John 1:3: "Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made."



When it comes to worldviews, every worldview is left with some kind of an uncaused and assumed entity at the foundation of that world view. For theism, the uncaused cause is the origin of God. For atheism, the uncaused cause is the origin of the universe. In essence, every worldview necessarily has unknowns or uncaused causes at the very beginning. When asked where God came from, the theist may answer, "I don't know", but when asked where the universe came from, the non-theist must also then answer, "I don't know".



The question thus does not come down to, "Is it possible that God could have been uncaused and existed infinitely in the past?" (The answer to that question is, "yes--philosophically, it is possible that God is an uncaused cause, or an unmoved mover.") Beause all worldviews have assumed uncaused causes at their very beginning, this question comes down to, "Whose uncaused cause seems the most reasonable?"



Some non-theists may try to avoid this unknown through a theory of cyclical universes, where our universe came from a previous universe, or theoretically exists inside some other universe, but all of these explanations still regress back to the question, "what started off the chain of events?". The non-theist must answer, "I don't know", but the theist has an explanation for one more thing than the non-theist: the origin of the universe. We may not be able to understand the "origin" of "God", but we know that space-time and energy-matter can come from a superpowerful Being. Using God as an explanation for the origin of the universe is thus an acceptable philosophical inference which actually has a larger explanatory power than a model which doesn't invoke God and leaves the origin of the universe unexplained. Theism thus provides a more philosophically acceptable uncaused cause: God. Since the universe appears to have been designed by an intelligence, postulating a super-Intelligence (whose origin is unknown or, the case of Christian theism, who has no origin) who created the universe, seems more reasonable than to postulate a designed universe that looks that way for no apparent reason.
sereneicequeen
2006-07-21 06:22:54 UTC
life might not be solely defined by our definition of it.
anonymous
2006-07-21 06:32:40 UTC
Survey says.....not really.
kristin22
2006-07-21 06:18:32 UTC
uh yeah thats why we are here


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