Question:
please explain about astrology system?
Hoang N
2010-07-02 22:57:16 UTC
Could anyone briefly provide any scientific evidence supporting Astrology as a valuable system capable of describing Reality? Or provide any scientific argument debunking Astrology as a science?
Six answers:
Gr4eGr4e (:
2010-07-02 23:15:44 UTC
Astrology is a fantasy, people these days use it as an excuse for the way they act or feel, or for what's going on. As hard as it is, we must all face the fact that life is life, and what happens here is not because of where the stars are, it just simply happens. There is no proof for astrology because no one person can know exactly how they feel in comparison to how they felt the other day. Yes, it may be better or worse, more happy or more sad, but that does not depend on the stars, that depends on the attitude of America and the ability to be able to deal with life, without blaming it on the position of the stars.
Alan
2010-07-03 00:41:44 UTC
Thousands of years ago people noticed that there were thousands of stars in the sky that never moved.



They also noticed that there were seven "things" (they called them moving stars) that moved about, drifting back and forth through the 12 constellations called the Zodiac (circle of animals)



these 7 "things" are, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn,



They noticed that as the sun moved it seemed to Control the seasons (true it does)



The also noticed the movement of the moon controlled the tides (true it does)



they then notices that Mars appears every 2 years and they had battles every 2 years so they thought Mars controlled wars (false it doesn't)



They also thought that the other 4 planets must control something else but they were wrong also



Foe some reason some people still believe in this old myth, and it is made worse by professional astrologers who say things like "you are going on a journey".... (Everybody goes on a bus to school or work) and get paid a small fortune for these "predictions"



I live near a professional astrologer in north wales, he lives in a million pound mansion in snowdonia and he couldn't hold down a job as a bus conductor in the real world.

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Hope this helps, Alan
Starski
2010-07-02 23:03:23 UTC
Astrology is not a science because it does not use the scientific method that actual sciences, like chemistry, physics, and astronomy use. That method involves a cycle of observation, hypothesis, prediction, and either refutation or confirmation of the prediction.
Dude
2010-07-02 23:12:59 UTC
We jsut did this about 2 hours ago, scroll down some. No, never mind, I love answering the same question over and over, it makes me feel like i am spending my time very constructively.



http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/skepticism/blfaq_astro_sci_index.htm



http://space.about.com/b/2006/04/28/astronomy-versus-astrology.htm
poornakumar b
2010-07-03 01:10:52 UTC
Astrology (all such systems) stem from Astronomy. Without that basis there is no Astrology that is only the predictive part. Astrology as it stands today along with its Astronomy baggage is almost unchanged from its origins. Its Astronomy package is labeled 'Astrology' by today's Astronomers out of ignorance or impatience to see what it is. I feel it is rather unfortunate. European version of Astrology incorporated the newly discovered planets Herschel (they call it that), Neptune and Pluto.

It only takes that slice of the Celestial Sphere called 'Zodiac' (others call it Ecliptic, but both mean the same not withstanding the redrawing of constellations). So Zodiac is the only subject matter that is the Astronomical basis of Astrology. The time measurements (based on Sun and Moon) are essentially Astronomy, though modern Astronomers don't agree.

The Great Circle of Zodiac is split into 12 signs (same as constellations but redrawn). Sun's transit (time interval) through each of them is called 'Sun' sign; Moon's is called 'Moon' sign.

The line of Zodiac in which Sun moves is like the central verge of a highway. Moon & other planets also move in the path but not on central verge. It is so because as orbit of each is inclined to the (plane of) Zodiac, it deviates from central verge to either side alternatively, crossing the central verge in between at 'nodes'. All move in same direction(East to West) normally. Depending on its position as viewed from Earth, a planet appears to slip back and reverse into a 'retrograde' (West to East) motion for a while till the relative positions are restore as before with normal direction. Inner planets Mercury & Venus move in 'retrograde' direction half of their cycles; as viewed (from Earth) their whole orbit before us - both directions.

One point of contention is the starting point of the circle (girdle) of Zodiac. Zodiac takes Sun in its annual sojourn to the northern most point (nearer to Pole Star) and the farthest on the other (south) after six months; in between Sun crosses (Celestial) Equator going north at Vernal (Spring) Equinox and from north to south at Autumnal Equinox. Equator is the reference with which measurements of planets are taken. Vernal Equinox is reckoned as the start of Zodiac & the Equator too. It is called "the first point of Aries" as that was the constellation there at that point. Precession of the Earth's axis, of the Poles and so for the Equator takes the node sliding down the Equator. This movement, precession of the Poles that takes 26000 years for a full circle is unknown to ancient Astronomers. The position of Vernal Equinox, the starting point of Zodiac at "first point of Aries" stays fixed in Traditional Astrology, even though it is about to enter 'Aquarius', ridiculous as actually the sign Aries is Pisces or Leo happens to be Cancer in reality. It throws all predictions (Astrology) haywire. European Astrology made this amend in line with Modern Astronomy. Indian Astrology is too thick to admit these changes nor to understand it. One Almanac maker, Lahiri amended it. He calls it (the 50"arc/annum) the 'Ayanaamsa' correction. Almanac making is the first book of Indian Astrology that got frozen in time and 'this' tribe is totally Astronomical ignorant, reduced to numerical calculation/computation handed down from a millennium at least.

Astrology is the predictions based on certain perceived traits concocted from the qualities because of the names given to the Astronomical objects. Venus is the most desirable woman in the Western system, but is the teacher/preceptor of King of Demons with wizened visage and flowing silver beard and mane in Indian system. Zeus or Jupiter (Roman name) is the thunder-wielding King of gods in western system while in Indian system he is the sage who advises the king of gods.

If you are interested in 'prediction' post it in Mythology/Folklore.
Mercury 2010
2010-07-02 23:44:24 UTC
sorry. you can't get blood out of a turnip.


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