Question:
I have a question about black holes and super colliders?
Newaccountaftergettingbannedfornoreason
2010-12-29 16:05:07 UTC
First off can a worm hole be sucked into a black hole? If there is a worm hole next to a black hole will the gravitational effects of the black hole affect the surroundings at the other end of the worm hole? Can a super collider be in a straight line like this ---------- or does it have to be in a circle? this is a diagram of what I am trying to do that involves these questions. please look at the stargate slide 1 then 2. lol http://www.flickr.com/photos/killjoy1053/?saved=1
Eight answers:
Lharvey
2010-12-29 16:33:32 UTC
A wormhole would slide into a black hole. Because a black hole is a warp in spacetime like a V, and a wormhole is also a warp in spacetime represented as ) (, both viewed from a higher dimensional point of view, seeing 3d spacetime as a flat plane at top of the text rows. Hmm while visualizing it, maybe the black holes' pit, somewhat like a wormhole entrance with no exit, would in fact fall into the WORMOLE instead, bobbing up and down between the upper and lower funnels of a wormhole, wherever they may be (lets hope not your laboratory!), until it settles in the "center", and is now a blackhole V whose mouth opens up in each side- like a rotated ><.. hmm interesting. So, possibly a Black hole and wormhole combo results in the same black hole Evento Horizon residing in two physical places/times. anyway, next question.



I believe that if indeed a wormhole was stable and opened near a black hole, the black hole would indeed pull at things on the far side.. and in return, that black hole is getting pulled toward the wormhole enterance (so turn it off QUICK!!). "Pulled" is not really the right term... More like "sliding" together on the sloped/warped ramp of spacetime.. which oddly enough, is what gravity actually IS.



A supercollider does not have to be a circle... but whole point of the circle is to use the accelerator magnets over and over again to get a longer repeated acceleration path. So making a straight collider that performs the same as a circular one where the particles are acclerated of thousands of cycles around that circle, the straight one would have to reach the moon to have enough magnetic accelerators to compete with the circulars' performance.





so in the end, like that poem says "Beware looking into the Darkeness, for when you stare deep into it, it is also staring deeply back at YOU"- or more relavently: "dont bring a wormhole to a Black Hole, because you are in effect bringing the Black Hole back to YOUR FACE"



:)
Quadrillian
2010-12-29 17:24:07 UTC
As far as we know, worm holes are sheer fantasy, and black holes probably do not exist as such. Noone has ever developed the mathematical techniques to investigate matter at sufficiently high densities to be sure if black holes are real.



You are probably wasting your time on sheer fantasy. So unless you are thinking of writing some very bad sci fi that needs to be propped up with cliches, I would suggest reading about some of the fascinating REAL science that goes into particle accelerators like the LHC, and also read up on the evolution of stars. I think you will find fact far more interesting than fiction.



Once you have mastered the basic real science you will be able to appreciate how absurd it is to search for facts amongst fantasy.



Cheers!
2010-12-29 17:58:57 UTC
First, wormholes are more or less the same as black holes in that you need to black holes connected to each other via an Einstein-Rosen bridge through hyperspace.



Super colliders are circular, because particles need to travel for many thousands of miles in them. You could make a straight one, but it would be too long to fit on earth. They make smaller linear accelerators that are in a straight line, but they can't reach the speeds of super colliders.
Sithlord78
2010-12-29 16:25:55 UTC
You need to work on asking questions one at time.



The first one I have no idea. I can guess but I'm not gonna take the time to try it.



As for the second, it's not enough to just shoot the particles at each other. You have to get them going with enough velocity. If you were to put them in a straight line you'll run out of room real fast. If you put them in a circle you can spin them around as many times as you have the power to do so, increase their velocity to the right point and then direct them into each other.
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2010-12-29 16:29:05 UTC
"...can a worm hole be sucked into a black hole?..."

Worm holes are strictly theoretical; none has ever been found. Theory shows that they could be formed where intense and immense amounts of energy exist, like near a black hole. In other words a black hole is theoretically needed for a worm hole to exist.
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2016-10-27 04:16:07 UTC
the objective of the COLIDER became no longer to MAKE a black hollow .. that became ONE WACKY physicist affirming that it can make one and that the stated black hollow could then devour up the earth that became no longer the wanted rationalization for the cern collider. As to authentic international complications shall we glance at some issues technology has hellped ... teflon pans were invented after the nasa scientists invented teflon then there is polio that became cured via a scientist or maybe penicilin that became discovered via a scientist. what could the cern great colider do . it may carry our information of sub atomic debris as a lot as what takes position in nature and then lets get something like anti remember potential.. and that is between the bi products of the cern great colider it does generate very very very small quantities of antimatter.
?
2010-12-29 16:15:14 UTC
how would things collide if it where straight.ok i suppose iam not sure if they need the circle so the particles can do several "laps" to get to 99 percent of the speed of light if so the that straight line would go from california to kentucky
2010-12-29 16:17:56 UTC
If the collider wasn't in a circle, how could they get the particles to collide? It wouldn't be a collider, would it?


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