Question:
If Stupid people say UFOs don't exist because they have never seen one?
Raymond
2007-04-12 08:48:39 UTC
then does that mean Black Holes don't exist because no one has ever seen one?

You are too dumb to answer this so don't try, just making a point.

If you defend the existence of a black hole your argument supports the UFO as well.
27 answers:
anonymous
2007-04-12 08:50:57 UTC
I think anything can exist in the world many secrets are yet to be revealed...
?
2007-04-12 09:14:08 UTC
Whoa, there Raymond!!



Calling people stupid simply because they don't believe in UFOs because they have never seen doesn't really correlate to your Black Hole comparison now does it....really?



To many people the existence of an ETBE is a huge stretch; scientifically, morally and in many cases religiously. Plus...to any educated person or anyone who can read a scientific journal....Black Holes have been proved mathematically; correct? While UFOs have not been proved mathematically or with hard physical evidence of the same validity as a Black Hole.



Now Raymond, are you still going to call me stupid? I just presented a reasonable argument as to why some people have a hard time believing in UFOs even while accepting the existence of Black Holes. If you do then you're a narrow minded science geek that isn't open to the possibility that not everyone believes as you do; nor should they.



By the way I believe in Black Holes because the couple of astronomy courses I took in college showed me the math. I also believe in UFOs and ETBEs having never seen any.....the odds that we are alone are too fantastic to think no one else is out there. And since I worked butt off to earn BS, MPA & an MBA in finance & math I'm pretty sure I'm not stupid.



REPLY TO RAYMOND: As I recall this is very similar to the Minniville, OR of the late'50s or early '60s and many "experts"debunked it as fake. But you saw one like this at low altitude, day light and mere 100 feet away?! Man, do I wish I was there. What was it....as I mentioned, I believe in their exsistance even though I have never seen one. I don't believe it was swamp gas, a Project Mogul dummy, a bird, plane or even Superman. I believe what you saw was a real object, with physical mass and dimensions that were observable and does not resemble any aircraft that I have ever seen. It is by definition a UFO. Is it a space craft of alien origin.....I can only imagine that it is. Must have been a hell of a thing to see up close and personal. Why do I get the feeling the second shoe is about to drop?
p v
2007-04-12 08:58:38 UTC
The question is not whether UFO sightings exist or if black holes exist.

The question is: "What are they?"



UFO sightings certainly exist, but they are only defined as Unidentified Flying Objects. Not aliens, or even airships. Only as bright lights that flit around.



On the other hand, black holes are well described by a lot of scientific evidence by very well educated people.



But I agree, it would be interesting if they were indeed intelligent life from other worlds.
anonymous
2007-04-12 09:47:32 UTC
Iraq51: Point taken, and it was just a way to get a reaction, and it succeeded.



I have a question for you: In 2002 I saw a near duplicate of this object photographed in 1965. Whether the 65 photo is fake or not, that is virtually what I saw, at approximately the same altitude, and being less than 100 feet from it in broad daylight. It is not swamp gas, thermal inversion, bird, plane, helicopter, or PROJECT MOGUL, it was seen south of Orlando, one minute duration, approximate. With all of your knowledge, what was it? Perhaps Aryans leaving from a triip to the Magic Kingdom? It had just lifted off the ground.





Rationale: You mean like police officers, Military Officers, Astronauts, Scientists, Teachers, Pilots, you mean lunatics like them?
Velouria
2007-04-12 08:52:54 UTC
The existence of black holes has been proved with mathematics based on how the universe works. There is no mathematcial evidence for UFO's, just visual evidence that people don't know what it is they are seeing = Unidentified Flying Objects. UFO's are not necessarily Alien vehicles, which is what you seen to be assuming.
LD
2007-04-12 08:50:55 UTC
Yep. Why is "Stupid" capitalized however?



Also I have to say that you should start referring to it as "aliens" opposed to "UFOs" because a UFO is just an object that's not identifiable and which can fly. That could be a meteor fragment, a undiscovered bird, a shoe thrown into the air and moving so quickly that it cannot be identified.



I think there is alien life by the way, outside of our planet. It might be a worm-like form of life, but I think there's SOMETHING.
anonymous
2016-12-04 02:54:47 UTC
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jbtascam
2007-04-12 08:56:59 UTC
"Just because you don't see them, you can't tell me there aren't faeries dancing on your lawn!" - NYT Editor who wrote "Yes Virginia, There Is A Santa Clause"



There is no credible scientific evidence that extraterrestrial UFOs exist. All we do have are poor quality photographs and "eyewitness" reports, neither of which constitute overwhelming evidence.



Scientists have discovered credible evidence that Black Holes exist. They have discovered acretion disks, x-ray sources, and gravimetric distortions that fit very nicely with predictive equations and theories. If black holes do not exist, these discoveries are pointing to something very strange (and unpredicted) indeed.



Extraterrestrial UFOs do not fall under any "scientific" theory. But then, you may be too....incapable of reason or logic...to understand that.
Kay J.
2007-04-12 08:52:32 UTC
You can also not "scientificaly" see oxygen, and you can't see the wind, just the wind blowing something, but you still KNOW that exists. UFO's could be an airplane when you don't know it's an airplane because it would tachnically then be an unidentified FLYING object. People called superman a ufo, too.
RationalThinker
2007-04-12 09:50:37 UTC
It's amusing how you are using the descriptors of "stupid" and "narrow minded" when they fit your own argument and assumptions perfectly. I do not believe in "Space Aliens"; not because I have never personally seen one, but because most of the people who have are on the lunatic fringe without evidence.



BTW, I also have never seen a germ or a virus, but there are tests I can make to confirm their existence.
anonymous
2007-04-12 09:07:58 UTC
You know we can detect the X-Ray signatures of black holes. I have never seen any decent evidence that UFOs are anything extra-terrestrial.
anonymous
2007-04-12 09:04:20 UTC
2 types of UFOs. 1 is man made by black projects from US military from Project Paperclip from after WWII and also includes NASA. 2nd type is demonic and are controlled by the Fallen Ones, the Nephillim. They most likely took up residence on Niribu (12th planet) after they destroyed Mars. Bible speaks of them and even mentions them as the frog people that come from the water. Hence why we know them as the reptile aliens. The grays I won't get into here.



But actual little green men from a distant star, no. Green men from ancient past that still live in our oceans and on another planet that work with Lucifer and do his deeds on earth, yes.



Black holes are not holes, but rifts in space and time. They are access points to more dark matter, where Lucifer gets his strength from and dark matter is also what powers most UFOs. They went from old Rolls Royce and BMW engines (both manufacturers have records) to graviton engines to black matter engines. Even NASA has a black matter engine so don't think I am a lost soul, I know more than most could handle. Look into the new ion motor and realize its a black matter motor.



People should study the bible more, it tells us all about them. Its what made me a believer.....30 yrs as agnostic/atheist and due to deep deep DEEP research on UFOs, 9/11, mind control and about 27 other topics, the research led me to the bible, then once I understood that past what most think it is, the truth showed itself. When people say the bible stands for " Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth" they are NOT kidding.



The ball UFO is nothing more than another Nazi copy and also a copy of Sputnik, Russia's satellite. The balls are used by CIA and FBI for observation and tracking. We are tracked more than most even can comprehend.



Cell phone technology was invented in the early 1900's and sezied by the military. In the 1940's the military had computer systems that could track every phone call on the planet and record anything due to keywords mentioned. Today, you are so tracked and so known that they know more about you and your thinking patterns than you do yourself. Ever wonder why marketing does so well? Stealth was invented and flying in the 50's, when we had black and white TV and AM radio. Yet its still advanced today. Imagine, try to imagine if you can what they have today.



Even the ex CEO of Boeing is on record stating " anything you can even imagine flying, we already tried it all and more prior to 1947 ". Even Donald Rumsfeld is on video from 1992 stating the entire moon landing and most of NASA is a hoax and just a cover up to hide people from the truth.



I will tell you this much, ever see one land....run. Whether military or Nephillim, they are not there for the good of you. The Nephillim use to eat humans as food prior to the days of Noah's flood. Why do you think we have abductions and birth items? They are growing their own food.
knowssignlanguage
2007-04-12 08:52:08 UTC
for one ufo mean unidentified flying object so the point of it having to be from outer space is not true it just mean no one can identify it. The government has plenty of identified flying objects that we dont know about. So just because someone says UFO they dont have to mean alien.
anonymous
2007-04-12 09:01:31 UTC
What an intelligent way to ask a "question." And you have the nerve to call other people stupid? And I'd like to quote George Sanders from the movie "All About Eve": "You have a point...an idiotic one...but a point."
ILOVEYOUROCKO
2007-04-12 08:53:35 UTC
how do people know if they don't excist? just because they've never seen one doesn't mean that they aren't real. for example, if tou don't know what a tv is, you can't say it doesn't excist. i mean how would you know, you haven't seen one before...the reason why they say it's not real because they always wan't to be right. but one day when they do see one, they'll be so embariised because they had everyone believing that their not real.
anonymous
2007-04-12 15:51:00 UTC
I cant stand you people who say you have seen one so they are real I hunt the ******** bas-tards down and killem in flight I know all about them there scared of me and so dont come to earth to shake your hand in good friendship.
think_of_the_bubble
2007-04-12 08:50:29 UTC
UFO's have no scientific basis, there is no mathematical calculation in support of it as is the case with black holes.
anonymous
2007-04-12 08:51:08 UTC
Well, you have asked the question the wrong way. You called everybody stupid that does not believe like you so I doubt if you get alot of serious answers.
anonymous
2007-04-12 08:51:18 UTC
Allow me to tell you that I have NEVER seen one, but would like to.I am a believer in UFO's.
mike b
2007-04-12 11:31:54 UTC
i have seen a extraterrestrial craft i have never seen a black hole
firedup
2007-04-12 08:52:18 UTC
That statement can pertain to about anything... God, Big Foot, A fair trial.......
lsutiger4god
2007-04-12 08:51:54 UTC
Great point. I use the same analogy to prove God's existence. You can't see him, but he exists!
anonymous
2007-04-12 08:51:30 UTC
for the same stupid reason some stupid people don't believe in JESUS just because they've never seen him!
JAN
2007-04-12 08:51:35 UTC
OK, I will make a point. Your rude!
anonymous
2007-04-12 08:53:27 UTC
you are not making a point.
anonymous
2007-04-12 08:51:36 UTC
aliens?

nature and space?



ones more realistic believe it or not
yalc27
2007-04-12 08:52:37 UTC
What about God?


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