Question:
Does astrology has any credibility? Seems like it became a science!(check the link)?
Bugsie
2011-02-08 23:42:57 UTC
I wasn't really sure if astrology was a science or not, but now that I see this link:

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/astrology_a_trusted_science.html

Seems like Bombay Court ruled out that Astrology is a science, and should be learned in school for that matter!

I was a believer in astrology, had many predictions done for me....but all the time I thought it was a serious academic subject, then I re-thought, and now after reading this article, re-though again.

What do you think?
Fifteen answers:
Marko S
2011-02-09 10:08:52 UTC
Astrology is a pseudoscience - something that looks and sounds like science, but in fact is not.



Astrology claims that huge plasma balls and rocks hurtling around it in the sky + some randomly picked groups of stars that are hundreds of light years away from each other can effect your personality.



What exactly is the mechanism of how this works? I really would like to know that. How exactly do stars and planets effect a personality of a being living on the surface of Earth?



There has been extensive studies on this. So far, absolutely no credible connection between celestial bodies and people's personality traits have been found.



Science is not done in courts in India. Science is done in the scientific community through the peer-review process and the scientific method.
Erica s
2011-02-09 06:04:35 UTC
For astrology to be termed a science, it has to obey the rules that govern all sciences. This it does NOT do. Those rules entail the fact that a science is provable or disprovable, and astrology is neither. Whilst astrology and astronomy have the same observational beginnings, they have diverged over time to the point where they don't even agree in those observations. The shapes we think we see in the night sky are an accident of our place in the galaxy, and if we moved round the galaxy, the pictures would change. The only influence the stars may have is to possibly inspire us to learn more about the universe. They have no measurable effect on our daily lives. As has been mentioned, a judicial body is unlikely to be competent to give a true ruling on the subject.
grayure
2011-02-09 00:18:40 UTC
I'm agnostic about astrology as such, but it's a significant cultural artefact and it varies. Western astrology is really about arcs in the ecliptic rather than constellations. It would also be surprising if people born at a particular time of year didn't have certain things in common, for example, leaving aside anything about stars and planets. Babies born at the end of the winter tend to have a higher birth weight and to be healthier than babies born at the start of winter, and in Iceland, there was a tendency for babies born in September to have Type I diabetes because their mothers ate a traditional food at Christmas which damaged the developing pancreas.



There are really two burdens of proof. One is on astrology that the claims it makes correspond to reality and the other is on astrological sceptics that there are no periodic or cyclical phenomena in human behaviour or physiology corresponding to the time of lunar month (as opposed to menstrual), year, day and more remote cycles.



Indian astrology also has a closer correspondence between the astronomical zodiac and the astrological.



Besides that, regardless of its empirical basis or otherwise, astrology is a rigorous academic discipline though it might not be a science in the Western sense, and its concepts are part of the everyday vernacular.



Finally, the word "science" in Indian English seems to have a slightly different usage than in North America, the British Isles and Australasia, as seen in "the _science_ of self-realisation" for example. It doesn't refer to hypotheticodeductivism alone.
2016-10-14 05:52:20 UTC
i could be rethinking back. This replaced into no longer a court docket case of astrology v technology (1st factor) it replaced into astrology v a set of debunkers (2d factor). The third factor is the case replaced into for misrepresentation by using the debunker. This reference you have offered does no longer something what so ever to encapsulate astrology as a technology. ie s. all it says is you may no longer misrepresent a controversy the comparable regulation that applies to each physique else. Even the call of the different occasion Lasy scientists exhibits they didnt know what they're conversing approximately. The targets of civil regulation are diverse from different styles of regulation. In civil regulation there is the attempt to ideal a incorrect, honor an contract, or settle a dispute. If there's a sufferer, they get reimbursement, and the guy who's the reason for the incorrect will pay, this being a civilized form of, or criminal option to, revenge. no rely if that's an fairness rely, there is regularly a pie for branch and it gets disbursed by using a manner of civil regulation, probable invoking the doctrines of fairness. In public regulation the point is in lots of situations deterrence, and retribution.
Troasa
2011-02-09 02:24:25 UTC
This was not a judgment on whether astrology in India is a science or pseudoscience as the highly dubious Skyscript website out of the UK would have us believe. Regardless of our position on the subject of astrology, a website which exists for the sole purpose of promoting astrology can not be considered a viable source for factual information. The biased slant in favor of astrology by Skyscript taints the article to create an impression and opinions which are not part of the legal case:



A Public Interest Litigation was filed by NGO Janhit Manch in an attempt to get a clause put into astrology advertisements stating that they were not "tried and tested" and should be in accordance with the Drugs and Magical Remedies Act (Objectionable Advertisements) of 1954.



This was the entire issue.



The Union government position filed by Dr R Ramakrishna, deputy drug controller (India), west zone, was that astrology practice in India was 4000 years old and therefore exempt from the 1954 requirement. The crux of the defense was that the 1954 Act applied to Drugs and magic but not to astrology et al.



This is what the court upheld.



Highly important to the case, yet left out of Skyscript's report, and the most probably swaying fact in the case was that Bharat Mehta, Advocate for Maharashtra government, submitted an affidavit filed by the Food and Drugs Administration department which said that necessary action is being taken against the guilty under the Drugs and Megical Remedies Act. The guilty meaning those persons who are overtly fraudulent in their astrology practices.



Mehta did not elaborate on how one astrologer is deemed to be more fraudulent than another astrologer.



Regardless of ones views regarding astrology, listening to Skyscript cover the Indian case is much like listening to the National Enquirer cover a traffic ticket court case - highly sensationalized. I would assume that anyone who is getting their news from a source such as Skyscript already has an opinion regarding whether astrology is a science or not.



Contrary to what some others post here, there is no unified global definition or agreement on what the word science means. Resources define science this way:



1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws.

2.systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.

3. any of the branches of natural or physical science.

4. systematized knowledge in general.

5. knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study.

6. a particular branch of knowledge.

7. skill, especially reflecting a precise application of facts or principles; proficiency.



Astrology has an established system of knowledge but it does not deal with facts and truths. The results are inconsistent and not testable. It does not apply to the physical world and is therefore not a natural or physical science.



The fact is that the definition of science is broad, therefore one could argue that astrology is a science. But not in the traditional sense. To call astrology a science, we must be open to metaphysics as a science and the study of emotion and personality being predicated upon the position of planets and moons and stars in the sky. Regardless of how many of those predictions are right or wrong.



I personally find it humorous that those who adamantly object to calling astrology a science are those who are so willing to accept conjectures and hypotheses of theoretical physicists as a work of science. The multiple universes and white holes and the travel through a black hole to a new dimension are no more valid than the practice of astrology. I challenge anyone here to come forth and draw the line. A true definition of science cannot toss out one form of magic while at the same time blindly accepting others. For we then become not scientists but hypocrites. We become nothing more than a shaman who picks and chooses his sources of magic.
Satan Claws
2011-02-09 02:39:29 UTC
Just to be sure:

Don't confuse astroloGY (which is a superstition) with astronoMY (which is a science).





Seems like Bombay Court ruled out that Astrology is a science



I doubt that a judicial court has competence to recognize scientific validity of propositions. There's a reason why, when a case involves technical evaluations, they consult with experts who testify in court.





I was a believer in astrology, had many predictions done for me...



Here, listen to this. I'm sure you'll like it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dp2Zqk8vHw
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2011-02-09 06:37:00 UTC
A court in India ruling that astrology is a science has as much validity as the U.S. state that legislated pi equal to 3.0. Science is conducted by scientists and is based on tests of hypotheses...it is not controlled by legislators or the judiciary. Astrology is notorious for avoiding real-world tests and ignoring negative results, so does not qualify as a science by the standards that scientists use.
Starski
2011-02-09 15:07:41 UTC
It's not a matter of opinion. All science uses the scientific method: Observe, hypothesize, predict, confirm or refute prediction, repeat.



Astrology does NOT use the scientific method.



Therefore, Astrology is NOT a science.
stefαn: the good natured troll
2011-02-08 23:50:25 UTC
Astrology doesn't follow any of the steps involved with the scientific method, that is why astronomy schismed from that outdated witchcraft 400 years ago.



For some reason, a lot of knuckleheads never got the memo, and still think the planets control them, rather than owning up to their own poor chioces and taking responsibility for their own screw-ups.
misantropology
2011-02-08 23:45:10 UTC
You can not predict your future by looking at the stars. It is a form of trickery to expalin away the unknown. The "predictions" made are always very generalized and could apply to 99% of the people. The only science behind this would be psychology and how to effectively manipulate people.
?
2011-02-09 02:22:28 UTC
There is no study which has ever shown a correlative link between astrological predictions and real events.
wilde_space
2011-02-09 13:41:06 UTC
No credibility. Astrology is not science, it's a superstition.
2011-02-09 01:40:32 UTC
It is as credible as a chocolate tea pot. It is valueless in science and complete hokum. They could not even predict planets that there discovered by science and that is supposed to be their forte.
Rowan Cole
2011-02-09 00:12:32 UTC
Basically astrology is completely false. There is no truth behind it, just a load of tricks.
Mr.UsuallyRight
2011-02-09 00:45:56 UTC
Honestly, I'm not sure...


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