Question:
Is plan x real or is it just a hoax?
Reed
2009-09-21 12:21:54 UTC
As of late numerous websites, videos, pictures, and ppl have poped up and begun telling about nibiru or planet X. No franky i find this whole thinking to be a hoax but i would love to here from others. Wat are your takes on this so called coming planet?
Ten answers:
Brigalow Bloke
2009-09-21 12:47:15 UTC
Everything you have read, seen or heard about this is wrong or a direct lie.



1. The Mayan calendar does not end, it works in cycles just like ours.



2. The Mayans made no predictions about anything, except for seasons, solstices, full moons and eclipses, pretty much like we do, this sort of thing is fairly easy to do if you keep records and can do straight forward arithmetic.



3. The prediction that something big would happen in 2012 was invented maybe 20 years ago by a man called Jose Arguelles, he is a former LSD user, an astrologer and has claimed to be the re-incarnation of a Mayan priest among other nutty things.



4. Since then a lot of other nuts and frauds have jumped on his bandwagon including the persistent drug user and now dead Terence McKenna who "predicted" the future by taking drugs and by tossing coins.



5. Some say that the planets will line up. They won't. It would not mean anything if they did. They said exactly the same thing about the year 2000 which is another time the world was supposed to end. Back in the late 1950s a lot of the planets did almost line up and nobody noticed anything.



6. Some talk about galactic alignments of this or that. Most of these are not true, and the only one that is nearly right was closest in 1998. Nobody noticed anything. This does not worry the character behind it though. But I don't think he says the world is going to end either.



7. Planets X and Nibiru are invisible, have no size, have no mass and Nibiru can pass through the inner solar system repeatedly without affecting anything. In other words, they don't exist. X was invented by Nancy Lieder who claimed she was told about it by aliens who abducted her and now hears voices in her head.



Nibiru was cooked up by Zecharia Sitchin who invented it to sell books about aliens invading the Earth in ancient times and creating humans as slaves. He said it won't be back till after 2085.



8. There will be no pole shifts. Nancy Lieder claimed that planet X would cause a magnetic pole shift in 2003, but since it didn't happen she postponed planet X to 2012 to fit in with Arguelles ideas. Other people have invented solar flares and other things so they can have a pole shift. Solar flares cannot cause a magnetic pole shift on Earth, their magnetic fields are too weak by large factors.



9. Other predictions about the Sun are false or wrong. The next peak in solar activity is expected in the early - middle of 2013, not 2012 and the latest measurements show that the expected peak will be about average or even lower than average. Peaks in solar activity happen every 11 years. The worst that happens is that powers supplies can be cut in a few places for a few hours and some radio communications are disrupted.



10. Despite what some people say, there are no predictions about 2012 in the Bible, Nostradamus or any other old books. These are straight lies.



11. There is no force that can cause a sudden shift in the geographic poles.



12. There are no large asteroids or comets that are likely to hit the Earth in 2012.



13 The Institute for Human Continuance (spelling?) is owned by Sony pictures and is intended to promote the movie '2012'. It has no actual reality. The 2012 movie is based on Nancy Lieder's 2003 predictions.



14. The whole thing is either crazies raving or some others trying to make a few dollars by frightening some people.



15. Most of the people worried about this are under 16. I do not know any adult that gives this material any consideration at all. They know it's garbage. So the scare will not work while those over 18 are running the world.



Source(s):

See these sites "abhota and "2021hoax"
Raymond
2009-09-21 12:40:58 UTC
The Planet X associated with the Big 2012 Hoax was invented for the end-of-the-world of 2003 (another hoax). It is an outright hoax. Built as a hoax right from the start.



Nancy claimed to have been told by aliens that this rogue planet was going through our solar system and was going to pass too close to Earth in May-June 2003, causing all kinds of problems (global tsunami, flip our rotation, hide the Sun...).



Nancy's "friends" had books and survival kits for sale. For a suitable donation, they could get your name on the aliens' rescue list.



After June 2003, they grabbed on to the fake date given for the end-of-the-Mayan-calendar (the Mayan calendar does not end) by another book seller.



They "enhanced" their Planet X hoax and even got the Hysteria Channel to broadcast their fake documentary about it.



Unfortunately for us, Roland made a movie about it, called "2012" (even though it is about the 2003 story) and Sony Pictures is going to release the movie later this Fall.



That is the main reason why we hear so much about it, as Fall approaches.



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Nibiru started life in the 1960s as a fictitious planet invented for a story that has nothing to do with 2012. In the original story (by Zechariah Sitchin), Nibiru cannot return before the year 2085. And when it does return, Nibiru cannot harm Earth (in the story, they need us alive, otherwise they cannot survive).



In 2003, when the charlatans had to recycle their Planet X hoax, they needed information to make their hoax more believable (in the original hoax, Planet X was a rogue planet = not in orbit around the Sun). So they stole ideas -- and the name -- from the Nibiru story.



Zechariah tried to complain. But the charlatans were making money much faster than Zechariah, so no one cared about poor Zechariah.
Randy P
2009-09-21 12:30:36 UTC
Just a hoax. Recycled from a previous hoax. Here's what an astronomer had to say about it when "Planet X" was going to cause "pole shift" and end the world in 2003.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/



All of this stuff is still being said by the same people. It makes no more sense now than it did then.
2016-05-21 02:58:03 UTC
I don't think it's actually meaning the end of the world. It could be that it was the Mayans and other ancient civilizations just got tired of calculating. I prefer to believe that if anything will be happening, it will just be a slight change, something more felt than seen. Quite possibly the Mayans may have believed it would be a point at which human beings would transcend time. Of course, that's easily doubtful, along with the speculation it's going to be the end of the world.
Bullseye
2009-09-21 14:09:15 UTC
Planet X does not exist anywhere in the sky. It is NOT hiding behind the sun. We ORBIT the sun. It is NOT visible from the South pole. You can see the entire southern sky from anywhere in the Southern Hemisphere.



Watch the famous astronomer Neil Tyson as he makes fun of Planet X and the 2012 hoax:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJjQMwEjC1I
bikenbeer2000
2009-09-21 12:53:07 UTC
Here's what the crackpots were saying in 1999 about its supposed arrival in 2003: http://www.rense.com/ufo5/nib2000.htm

Ask yourself whether any of this happened. They are dusting off the same old nonsense for 2012. Do they seriously expect anyone to believe any of it?
Faesson
2009-09-21 13:54:11 UTC
I don't know anything about "Plan X" but I saw this documentary about "Plan IX" and it does indeed look scary. Zombies, vampires, aliens... one lady looked exactly like a late-night horror show hostess! Scary.



In the end, the aliens blow up.



Or DO they?
Doc89891
2009-09-21 12:37:24 UTC
You are correct. It may not be a contrived hoax, but it is becoming a legend - bunch of bullshit, actually
LaurelHS
2009-09-21 13:28:57 UTC
Nibiru is not real.
Snow Leo
2009-09-21 13:28:41 UTC
we think like you.. it's just a hoax..


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