Is there evidence for the north star appearing in the sky around the time of Jesus's birth?

Question

Too look at it now, is there any reason to think the system suddenly became visible to the naked eye about 2000 years ago? I'm curious because I heard about KIC 9832227. With everything going on in the world today, a lot of people think these are the end times. Surely their ideas will solidify in a few years, when the light from KIC 9832227's collision reaches us and a new star, as bright as the sacred north star, suddenly appears in the sky.

Answer 1

No there is substantial signs that The Orion Nebula became Suoernova around that time

It was recorded by the Chineese

Polaris has always been thereabouts where it is

Answer 2

No.

Answer 3

Jesus is a fictional character. There is no evidence for his existence. Because he did not exist, he was not born and there are no astronomical phenomena associated with his birth.

Answer 4

The north star isn't especially bright. Some people speculate that the time of Jesus's birth was the time of a well-known triple conjunction of planets that we would date as 7BC. A ridiculous posting at Iowa State website says this a 2001 claim in the journal Bible Review is a new finding, but it was introduced to me in 1950, when I was 5 years old, at a planetarium show in Philadelphia, PA.

Answer 5

No.

Though there is evidence of other astronomical phenomenon.

Answer 6

The North Star was in the sky at the time that "christ" was penned into existence.



Since nothing in the biblical narrative is in context any more

just re-write the bible and make the necessary adjustments regarding its position and visibility.

Answer 7

A nova was observed and documented by Chinese and Korean observers in 7 BC. It was visible for 70 days.

Answer 8

No. Polaris has been know since before Christ. It isn't even that bright.

Answer 9

Well, ..., the North star was already in the sky well before Jesus' birth. The Magi would have been fully aware of the North Star as it was visible at ~33 degrees latitude.



In terms of the "star", this was most likely a one time astronomical event that is not repeatable but predictable. For example a triple conjunction or Regulus, Venus, and Jupiter. what ever it was it needed a North / South track since Bethlehem lies roughly south of Jerusalem. Thus it could not have been a "star" as we define stars today.

Answer 10

No; it’s been around for millions of years; and, there’s no evidence of it having ‘moved’ - since the star that guided the wise men were heading East, not north.

Answer 11

Polaris, the North Star, is not sacred. It was visible for thousands of years before the birth of Christ, and its existence was already documented. It is not very bright, and it was not hanging over Bethlehem unless the wise men were walking directly north towards Bethlehem for their entire trip

Answer 12

No.



The star seen by the Three Wise Men was NOT Polaris.



Remember, the Bible says the star appeared IN THE EAST.



The North Star is NORTH.

Answer 13

2000 years ago there was no North Star. The nearest pole star was a 7.65 magnitude star called HIP 63061. Polaris was two handspans away.

Answer 14

Alleged birth

Answer 15

If these are the "end times" it's because technology has left a lot of lazy and stupid people behind, leaving them to fall back on superstition and self indulgent religious beliefs. If you want to be close to God, you have to work hard with an open mind and let go of your vanity, ie you have to become a scientist.

Answer 16

No, not the north star. But there is PLENTY of evidence for conjunctions of of Saturn and Jupiter and the star Regulus, and three c planetary conjunctions in one year, including with Venus, but NONE of them with the north star, either Polaris or whatever star was the north star 2000 years ago and maybe Venus as well in the years around when Jesus was born.



The north star was NOT part of the conjunctions.



"...In the Babylonian system Jupiter represented the star of Marduk, the supreme Babylonian god. Saturn was the "Steady One." The constellation Pisces was associated with Ea, the god of wisdom, life and creation. The conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in Pisces predicts from Babylonian's viewpoint "the end of the old world order and the birth of a new king chosen by God." Parpola contends that Augustus' (BC 27 - AD 12 or 14) authority was still questioned and there was power vacuum in the Middle East, and the people, including the Jews, were looking for a new King that would topple the Roman Empire.



Here are the dates of three conjunctions in 7 BC according to Parpola.



First conjunction: May 27, 8am

Second conjunction: October 6, 10 pm

Third conjunction: December 1, 9pm.



The triple conjunction is rare, occurring every 800 years. Since 7BC, triple conjunctions were observed in 786 and 1583.



According to the UB,



First conjunction: May 29.

Second conjunction: September 29

Third conjunction: December 5.



Thus, there are some discrepancies of the actual conjunction dates that are recorded in the UB and those proposed by Parpola, although they are fairly close. There are some software which can be used to track the movements of planets in any year, including 7 BC, and someone presented these conjunctions at the Foundation a year ago. However, I was not sure if these computer programs calculate the dates using Julian calendar or Gregorian calendar.



The above discrepancies may have to do with the difference in Julian and Gregorian calendars or some glitches in the computer program Parpola used. If it is the latter, some smart readers could calibrate and write an article to pinpoint the correct time and dates of the triple conjunction, correcting Porpola's errors. Even if there were minor errors, I think it is significant that a prominent biblical scholars proposed and accepted unwittingly one of the important scientific event described in the UB...."



http://www.public.iastate.edu/~lightandlife/triple.htm



"...huban was the Pole Star some 5,000 years ago, when the Egyptians were building the pyramids.





The Great Pyramid of Giza, an enduring monument of ancient Egypt. Egyptologists believe that it was built as a tomb for fourth dynasty Egyptian Pharaoh Khufu around 2560 BC.Image via Nina Aldin Thune/Wikimedia Commons.



Thuban is not a particularly bright star, but it holds a special place in the hearts of stargazers. That’s because Thuban was the Pole Star some 5,000 years ago, when the Egyptians were building the pyramids. follow the links below to learn more about Thuban, now a relatively inconspicuous star in the constellation Draco the Dragon.



What is Thuban’s connection with the pyramids of Egypt?..."



http://earthsky.org/brightest-stars/thuban-past-north-star



AND , FYI Polaris is NOT a very bright star,. Vega is NOT the north star.

Answer 17

YES!



We have direct evidence of a very secret nature that this did in fact happen. Oftentimes shortly after sunset if it wasn;t cloudy, then disappear in the early hours. And with 100% certainly I can reveal now: probably.

Answer 18

<[To] look at it now, is there any reason to think the system suddenly became visible to the naked eye about 2000 years ago?> Utterly none. Let's think about this a little bit. Surely you don't believe that Earth suddenly began spinning 2000 years ago, so ancient men always had a feel for where the pole star would be whether there was an actual star there or not. But even if Polaris did suddenly appear in the sky--so what? How would that possibly guide people to a particular unknown place on Earth, other than the North Pole? It couldn't. And have you asked yourself why, if this event was of such great portent, does mention of the Star of Bethlehem occur only in a single Gospel, and not all of them? Because it's fiction, and whoever the writer of Matthew was simply made it up.

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People have harbored that conceit for 2000 years now, certain that they were so special as to be living to see the Second Coming, and every single one of them have died disappointed, as will you. And back in reality, you live better than a king did a couple of centuries ago, and if you live in the US, the homicide and violent crime rate is now less than half of what it was in the mid-1990's. That trend began exactly 18 years after abortion became legal in the US--that's the positive social impact of keeping millions of unwanted children out of a life of crime and poverty. Say "Thank you, Roe v Wade!" So how exactly are things so bad now, again?

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Polaris is neither sacred nor bright--I'm betting you couldn't even pick it out in the sky unless you know exactly where to look.

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More to the point, supernovae have appeared in the sky before. When SN 1054 detonated it was visible in the sky for a couple of years, and noted by Chinese chroniclers. But it didn't point to anything either, since like everything else in the sky it appears to rotate around the planet every 24 hours and doesn't remain fixed over any one point on the planet.

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Surely they won't. Please don't accept these or other absurd claims without thinking for yourself.

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Answer 19

Polaris has been in the sky for at least hundreds of millions of years. It is not always the "North star" though. Some people have been talking about the "end of times" for a long time now. The future is always uncertain, but if civilization collapses, or people become extinct, it will not be anytime soon, and it will be our own fault, not due to any mythology.